<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[WallStreetWagon: Behind the Brand]]></title><description><![CDATA[Each blog, a different company: We break down how major brands actually make their money.]]></description><link>https://www.wallstreetwagon.com/s/behind-the-brand</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dUUg!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3878f0fc-d124-4241-a362-c0e9bb590bda_320x320.png</url><title>WallStreetWagon: Behind the Brand</title><link>https://www.wallstreetwagon.com/s/behind-the-brand</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2026 17:59:40 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.wallstreetwagon.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[WallStreetWagon]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[thewallstreetwagon@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[thewallstreetwagon@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[WallStreetWagon]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[WallStreetWagon]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[thewallstreetwagon@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[thewallstreetwagon@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[WallStreetWagon]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Behind the Brand 02: Duolingo]]></title><description><![CDATA[You owe Duo an apology. And he owes you an explanation.]]></description><link>https://www.wallstreetwagon.com/p/behind-the-brand-02-duolingo</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.wallstreetwagon.com/p/behind-the-brand-02-duolingo</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[WallStreetWagon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 15:00:55 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/414e4bc9-535a-4ecc-ab23-ead3ec7eea77_1280x720.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KszR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbbf3fa4-c37e-4370-a1be-cd40c6539457_1280x720.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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And Tuesday. You told yourself you'd do it tomorrow. Tomorrow became last week. Last week became last month. Somewhere between your 47th ignored notification and your broken one week streak, Duolingo made $150 million. From people exactly like you.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>How a Free App Prints Money</strong></h2><p>Duolingo runs on a <strong>freemium model</strong>. The app is completely free: every language,  lesson, and level. No textbook or classroom. It&#8217;s just you, a cartoon owl, and an uncomfortable amount of guilt when you skip a day.</p><p>If you want to get rid of the ads and protect Duo&#8217;s feelings, you pay $7 a month for Super Duolingo. That&#8217;s the entire pitch.</p><p>On the surface it sounds like a terrible business. Give everything away for free, hope enough people pay $7. Except 500 million people have downloaded it, and Duolingo is worth over $7 billion. So something is clearly working.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>The Problem Nobody Talks About</strong></h2><p>Here&#8217;s the uncomfortable math: less than 8% of Duolingo&#8217;s users ever pay for anything.</p><p>That means 92% of people, hundreds of millions of users, open the app, do their lessons, rack up streaks, ignore Duo for three months, come back, lose the streak, repeat&#8230; and <strong>never spend a dollar</strong>. For most companies, that would be a <strong>crisis</strong>. For Duolingo, it&#8217;s the entire strategy.</p><p>The real problem isn&#8217;t getting people to pay. It&#8217;s getting people to stay. The average user quits within two weeks. Languages are hard. Progress is slow. Life gets in the way. Duo sends a notification. You ignore it. He gets increasingly unhinged about it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ybtx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd83095-61c9-4c52-8b48-378499cf290a.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ybtx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd83095-61c9-4c52-8b48-378499cf290a.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ybtx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd83095-61c9-4c52-8b48-378499cf290a.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ybtx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd83095-61c9-4c52-8b48-378499cf290a.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ybtx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd83095-61c9-4c52-8b48-378499cf290a.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ybtx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd83095-61c9-4c52-8b48-378499cf290a.jpeg" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5bd83095-61c9-4c52-8b48-378499cf290a.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:18011,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://thewallstreetwagon.substack.com/i/193935017?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3b5d59a-dc7d-4897-b3bc-d0868389a3de_332x344.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ybtx!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd83095-61c9-4c52-8b48-378499cf290a.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ybtx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd83095-61c9-4c52-8b48-378499cf290a.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ybtx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd83095-61c9-4c52-8b48-378499cf290a.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ybtx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5bd83095-61c9-4c52-8b48-378499cf290a.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>That churn problem almost broke the company, until they figured out that guilt is actually an incredibly powerful retention tool.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>The Owl Was Never an Accident</strong></h2><p>At some point Duolingo&#8217;s marketing team made a decision that changed everything: they stopped selling language learning and started selling Duo himself. </p><p>The passive aggressive notifications. The memes. The TikTok account where Duo stalks celebrities, threatens users, and many more odd videos. None of that was random. It was a calculated bet that if people had a personal relationship with the mascot, even a slightly threatening one, they&#8217;d keep coming back.</p><p>It worked. Duolingo&#8217;s TikTok grew to over 10 million followers. News outlets covered the owl like a celebrity. The marketing went viral on its own, replacing an entire ad budget with free attention. Every meme about Duo guilting you into doing your Spanish lesson was free advertising worth millions.</p><p>The lesson: Duolingo doesn&#8217;t sell language learning. It sells a feeling: the slight anxiety of disappointing a cartoon bird. And that feeling keeps 500 million people coming back.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Where The Real Money Hides</strong></h2><p>Super Duolingo subscriptions are the main engine, but the most interesting revenue stream is one most users have never heard of: the Duolingo English Test.</p><p>Universities and employers worldwide accept it as proof of English proficiency, a direct competitor, but cheaper, faster, and taken from your laptop at home. At $59 per test, it&#8217;s a high margin, scalable product that has nothing to do with cartoon owls or Spanish lessons. It&#8217;s a serious B2B business quietly growing inside a app teenagers use to avoid doing their homework.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSin!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a5aa36d-b32e-4939-bcee-1ff9b4f2df42_1080x608.avif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSin!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a5aa36d-b32e-4939-bcee-1ff9b4f2df42_1080x608.avif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSin!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a5aa36d-b32e-4939-bcee-1ff9b4f2df42_1080x608.avif 848w, 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One side keeps the brand alive. The other side makes serious money.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>What They&#8217;re Actually Building</strong></h2><p>Duolingo isn&#8217;t a language app. It&#8217;s a habit machine.</p><p>Every design decision: the streaks, the XP, the leaderboards, the daily reminders, the increasingly dramatic owl&#8230; All that exists to make opening Duolingo feel as automatic as checking Instagram. Not because they think you&#8217;ll become fluent. Because the longer they keep you in the routine, the more likely you eventually become one of the 8% who pays.</p><p>And once you pay, you stay. Paid subscribers churn at a fraction of the rate of free users. The whole free experience is an extremely long, extremely patient funnel designed to turn habit into revenue.</p><p>They&#8217;re not teaching you French. They&#8217;re teaching you to need them.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Duo Is Still Waiting</strong></h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eiJi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eiJi!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eiJi!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eiJi!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eiJi!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eiJi!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg" width="728" height="506.1875" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:356,&quot;width&quot;:512,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:728,&quot;bytes&quot;:16685,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://thewallstreetwagon.substack.com/i/193935017?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eiJi!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eiJi!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eiJi!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eiJi!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F012569bf-2bef-4136-ae02-b0dc787b47c0_512x356.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>You&#8217;ve been ignoring him for three weeks. Duo&#8217;s fine. He&#8217;s worth $7 billion.</p><p>The next time that notification pops up, you&#8217;ll know exactly why he&#8217;s so desperate for you to come back. Your streak is his revenue. Your guilt is his product. And your $7 a month, if he ever convinces you, is exactly what he&#8217;s been after all along.</p><p>That&#8217;s Behind the Brand. Let us know which company we should break down next!</p><p>&#8212; <em>WallStreetWagon</em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.wallstreetwagon.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Don&#8217;t make Duo ask twice. Subscribe</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Behind The Brand 01: Spotify]]></title><description><![CDATA[You use it every day. Here's how it actually makes money.]]></description><link>https://www.wallstreetwagon.com/p/behind-the-brand-01-spotify</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.wallstreetwagon.com/p/behind-the-brand-01-spotify</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[WallStreetWagon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:00:36 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2c5e70f6-a740-46e8-b4c7-9c03dd501cf6_1176x936.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve probably had this moment: you&#8217;re listening to Spotify for free, an ad interrupts your playlist, and you think, <em>they must be making a killing off these ads.</em></p><p>They&#8217;re not. And that&#8217;s exactly what makes Spotify&#8217;s business model so interesting.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GPyB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5e0009a-80d0-4c52-85fc-5826e2e5f5a2_1920x733.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GPyB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5e0009a-80d0-4c52-85fc-5826e2e5f5a2_1920x733.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GPyB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5e0009a-80d0-4c52-85fc-5826e2e5f5a2_1920x733.jpeg 848w, 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Free users get access to the entire music library with ads. Premium users pay around $11/month for ad-free listening, offline downloads, and better audio quality. Simple enough on the surface.</p><p>But here&#8217;s where it gets <strong>interesting</strong>.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Ads Are Almost Irrelevant</strong></h2><p>Ad-related profits sit at just 6.4% (<em><a href="https://growthx.club/blog/spotify-business-model">Growthx</a>)</em>. This means that for every dollar Spotify makes from ads, it barely keeps six cents after costs. Compare that to premium subscriptions, which carry dramatically higher margins. Ads exist mainly as a conversion tool. In reality, it&#8217;s a slightly annoying experience designed to push you toward paying $11/month, not as a serious revenue driver.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>The Royalty Problem</strong></h2><p>Here&#8217;s the core problem in Spotify&#8217;s business: <strong>it pays record labels close to 52% of revenue generated by each stream</strong>, and over 85% of music streamed belongs to just four labels: Sony, Universal, Warner, and Merlin. That&#8217;s four companies with enormous leverage over Spotify&#8217;s cost structure, and <strong>Spotify can&#8217;t really do anything about it.</strong></p><p>This is why Spotify spent years barely profitable despite hundreds of millions of users. Revenue was growing, but so were royalty payments. <strong>The proportions were brutal.</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zB9_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268a648b-718d-4aea-ad5a-345a0607a9fc_1525x763.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zB9_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268a648b-718d-4aea-ad5a-345a0607a9fc_1525x763.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zB9_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F268a648b-718d-4aea-ad5a-345a0607a9fc_1525x763.jpeg 848w, 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The streaming company bought <em>The Ringer, Gimlet Media</em>, and most famously signing Joe Rogan, all because <strong>podcasts carry far higher margins than music</strong>. No major label to pay. Podcast content costs a fraction of music royalties and keeps users on the platform longer.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rGV_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F024f1267-903f-459d-b6a0-61d74a23ce9f_686x386.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rGV_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F024f1267-903f-459d-b6a0-61d74a23ce9f_686x386.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rGV_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F024f1267-903f-459d-b6a0-61d74a23ce9f_686x386.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rGV_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F024f1267-903f-459d-b6a0-61d74a23ce9f_686x386.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rGV_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F024f1267-903f-459d-b6a0-61d74a23ce9f_686x386.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rGV_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F024f1267-903f-459d-b6a0-61d74a23ce9f_686x386.jpeg" width="642" height="361.24198250728864" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/024f1267-903f-459d-b6a0-61d74a23ce9f_686x386.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:386,&quot;width&quot;:686,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:642,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Joe Rogan Experience #2333 - 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By 2024, average revenue per user climbed to &#8364;4.62, the highest it had been in five years.</p><p>The result? Spotify posted its <strong>first annual net profit in 2024 of &#8364;1.1 billion</strong><em> </em>after years of losses.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>The Bigger Picture</strong></h2><p>What Spotify is <strong>really</strong> building is <strong>an</strong> <strong>audio platform</strong>, not a music app. Music gets you in the door. Podcasts, audiobooks, and eventually video keep you there, at margins that actually make sense.</p><p>The bet is that if Spotify owns enough of your listening time across enough content categories, <strong>it becomes too embedded in your daily routine to leave</strong>. That&#8217;s <strong>the real advantage</strong>, not the music catalog that everyone has.</p><p>Next time that ad interrupts your playlist, remember: Spotify doesn&#8217;t actually want your ad revenue. It wants your $11.</p><div><hr></div><p>That's our first &#8216;Behind the Brand&#8217;. Drop a comment and tell us which company we should break down next!</p><p><em>&#8212; WallstreetWagon</em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.wallstreetwagon.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Subscribe for more blogs on <em>Behind the Brand </em></p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>